Friday, October 17, 2008

Muhammad gets owned by a drunken Hamza?

This hadith is long, so I will summarize it: After Ali got war booty (stolen from others) in the form of camels from the battle of Badr, he planned to give that war booty to Mohammad's daughter Fatima for marriage. However, Hamza was drunk, and hanging out with a belly dancer, who told him to cut up the camels. He did, Ali got ticked, told Muhammad that his property was destroyed (property which he stole from others). Muhammad came to reprimand Hamza, but Hamza asked Muhammad "are you anything but the slaves of my father?" Muhammad getting owned may have been the reason why alcohol was later outlawed...

Sahih Muslim: Book 023, Number 4881:
Husain b. 'Ali reported 'Ali having said: There fell to my lot a she-camel out of the spoils of war on the Day of Badr, and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) gave me (another) she-camel on that day out of the Khums (one-fifth reserved for Allah and His Messenger). When I made up my mind to consummate my marriage with Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), I prevailed upon a goldsmith of the tribe of Qainuqa' to go along with me so that we might bring Idhkhir wishing to sell that to the goldsmiths and thus I should be able to arrange my wedding feast. While I was arranging the equipments. i. e. litters, sacks and ropes, my two she-camels were sitting down at the side of the apartment of a person of the Ansar. I collected (the different articles of equipment) and found to my surprise that their humps had been chopped off and their haunches had been cut off and their livers had been taken out. I could not help weeping when I saw that plight of theirs. I said: Who has done that? They said: Hamza b. 'Abd al-Muttalib has done this. and he is in this house dead drunk in the company of some of the Ansair with asinging girl singing before him and his companions. She said in her song: O Hamza. get up and attack these falty she-camels. Thereupon Hamza stood up with a sword (in his hand) and cut off their humps and ripped their haunches and tore out their livers. 'Ali said: I went away until I came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and there was with him Zaid b. Haritha. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) recognised from my face what I had experienced, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: What has happened to you? I said: Messenger of Allah, by Allah, I have never seen (such an unfortunate day) as this day. Hamza has committed aggression to my she-camels, and has cut off their humps. and ripped their haunches, and he is in a house in the company of some drunkards. (Hearing this) Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent for his mantle and, putting it on him, he proceeded, and I and Zaid b. Haritha followed him, until he came to the door (of the house) in which there was Hamza. He (the Holy Prophet) sought permission which they granted him. and they were all drunk. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) began to reprimand Hamza for what he had done. Hamza's eyes were red. He cast a glance at Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and then looked towards his knees. and then lifted his eyes and cast a glance at his waist and then lifted his eyes and saw his face. And then Hamza said: Are you anything but the slaves of my father? Alah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to know that he was intoxicated, and he thus turned upon his heels, and came out, and we also came out along with him.

1) Is it ok to destroy another person's property?
a) How about stealing it through war booty?
b) How about destroying it when it is war booty?
c) How about stealing someone else's stolen property?
d) How about destroying someone else's stolen property?

2) What was worse; the way Hamza butchered those camels, or that he asked if Mohammad was a slave to his father?
a) Is Hamza revered by Muslims?
b) Why did not Mohammad not reprimand Hamza?

Answer: Because it was Hamza who made Islam strong - not Mohammad - As such, Mohammad could not tick off who made him strong
Tabari VI:103/Ishaq:132 "Hamza's Islam was complete. He followed the Prophet's every command. The Quraysh recognized that by Hamzah's acceptance of Islam Muhammad had been made strong. Hamzah would protect him."

3) Why did Hamza ask Mohammad "Are you anything but the slaves of my father? "
a) Drunkeness makes one tell the truth a lot easier.
b) Does this mean that Hamza viewed Mohammad so lowly that he thought of him as just a slave?
c) Does this mean that he only followed Mohammad so that he could go on raids for plunder like that of Badr (see above)?
i) Afterall, Allah's Apostle once said:

Volume 4, Book 53, Number 351: Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah:Allah's Apostle said, "Booty has been made legal for me."

4) At this point, alcohol had not been forbidden
a) Does this mean that Mohammad forbid alcohol because he did not want people to engage in aggressive behaviour such as ripping camels apart in the most cruel way?
b) Or did he not want people to drink because their true feelings about him would come to the surface, namely, his most loyal followers viewed him as nothing more than a slave of their fathers?

5) Why did Sahih Muslim include this verse?
a) Was it to show how alcohol became forbidden in Islam?
b) Or, was it to show what the original Muslims thought of Mohammad, in addition to the other non-muslims?
http://muslimhadith.blogspot.com/2008/10/muhammad-or-mudhammam.html

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

First of all, the war was started by idol worshipers!!! Don't forget that they took all the belongings that Muslims left in Mecca and they put those belongings in a caravan to sell all of that stuff in Damascus.
This IS STEALING, selling goods that don't belong to you it's called STEALING!!!

As for the hadith, it is just fabrication nothing else.